Wordie: Ships of Fame: Comments

Comment by Darqueau, about 1 month ago

Tue, 29 Jul 2008 18:18:49 +0000

Comment by John, 7 months ago

Sun, 27 Jan 2008 02:17:30 +0000

They're not literary, and I'm not sure they're famous, but this post mentions two wonderfully named ships: The Amiable Nancy and The Charming Betsey. Reminded me of this list.

Comment by reesetee, 10 months ago

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:07:09 +0000

C_b, how about the Karluk?

Comment by chained_bear, 10 months ago

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:29:37 +0000

Skipvia--and yarb--I think my cultural illiteracy is showing. I hereby confess: I have never read Conrad, nor have I (gasp!) read Melville. I'd be lame if I added those names without really knowing anything about the ships... wouldn't I?

At any rate, you've shamed me into reading Great Works again.

Or at least *considering* reading Great Works. ;)

And skipvia--I love your comments! I hope you're not REALLY hesitating to post them!

Comment by chained_bear, 10 months ago

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:27:16 +0000

No, no, I meant Minerva. I can't remind you too much about it without giving away a great plot secret, and I want people to read those books so I won't give it away. Anyway it was Jack Shaftoe's ship.

Yeah, I remember Queen Anne's Revenge because when I was in fifth grade, I read this cheapo Scholastic book called PIRATES, like, five times in a row. I remember because my brother said "Why are you rereading the same book?! You could've read that one, and then four other ones!" But you know, I had that book almost memorized. I remember a lot of useless facts from it (who knows how true they are, now that I know how books get written!), and I wouldn't trade those memories of curling up with a book I knew was good, for the world. :)

Well... maybe for the world.

Comment by skipvia, 10 months ago

Tue, 23 Oct 2007 01:24:43 +0000

*feeling somewhat better now*

*gingerly* How about the ships from Billy Budd--the Rights-of-Man and the Indomitable? I'm pretty sure Melville was going for some symbolism here, but I just can't seem to fathom it. (Har!)

Here's something you might enjoy, from Wikipedia. The early drafts of Billy Budd called the ship Indomitable, but Melville intended to change it to Bellipotent--from bella (war) and potens (power). The symbolism becomes a bit more clear...

*contemplating pressing the Comment button, but afraid I'll get yelled at again. Deep breath..here goes...*

Comment by reesetee, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:54:05 +0000

The ship in Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle: You mean Queen Anne's Revenge?

But wait--it's already listed. Guess you remembered it. :-)

Comment by chained_bear, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:53:14 +0000

Skipvia, I forgot to say: I'm glad you like the list. I feel bad for yelling now, even though I wasn't mad or anything. *wallows in guilt*

Comment by yarb, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:35:27 +0000

Yes I do, very much. But I prefer the land-based novels - The Secret Agent, Nostromo, Under Western Eyes - to the saltier ones. Sometimes I think Conrad gets a bit carried away with his sailors' yarns.

Comment by chained_bear, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:02:29 +0000

It's noteworthy fiction indeed, u. However, it's an awful name for a ship. I'll think about it. :)

Yarb, thanks for the stories! I can't decide if I want to add them or not, but I'll think about that too. You like Conrad, do you?

Comment by chained_bear, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:01:18 +0000

Ooh! A co-worker reminded me: Minerva.

Comment by John, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:54:17 +0000

then there's the famous ship "of fools."

Comment by uselessness, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:37:11 +0000

Oh, Horatio Hornblower's ship was the Indefatigable. It's fiction, but noteworthy fiction. :-)

Comment by chained_bear, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:06:56 +0000

Oh no! Now I can't remember the name of the awesome ship in Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle! Someone help! You know the ship I'm talking about? (I don't want to post a spoiler on here.) The one that half-cocked Jack and his buds sail back to Europe?

Comment by yarb, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:35:57 +0000

The Resolution was Cook's ship on his second and third voyages; I think it was the first ship to cross the Antarctic circle. Endeavour was Cook's ship on his first voyage.

*SPOILER*

The Patna in Conrad's "Lord Jim" is a steamer bound for Araby with a load of 600 pilgrims on the hajj. The ship is disabled by a submerged object and Jim, in a moment of moral crisis, joins the other crew in abandoning her and her human cargo, in the certain belief that she will go to the bottom. The Patna is in fact taken under tow by a French naval vessel and Jim's dereliction is exposed, branding him with a mark of disgrace which he is unable to shake off.

"The Nellie, a cruising yawl, swung to her anchor without a flutter of the sails, and was at rest" is the opening sentence of Conrad's "Heart of Darkness". Although the ship doesn't feature in the story, for some reason I can never forget its name.

Of course there are countless fictional ships and you have to exercise discrimination, but I think these two, certainly the Patna, merit inclusion.

Comment by John, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:24:33 +0000

Fantastic list. I *love* that the Millenium Falcon is included. Might I suggest the Black Duck, a famous rum runner? Great story about it here.

Oh, and PT 109!

Comment by chained_bear, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:19:32 +0000

Resolution? I thought his ship was called the Endeavour? (which is on the list)

Sloop John B., check! Can you elaborate on the other two? I've not heard of those.

SKIPVIA!! Bite your tongue! It was the C.S.S. Virginia! (which is already on the list) Merrimack was its name before the Confederacy made it an ironclad. Hence the famous battle should rightly be said to have been between "the Monitor and the Virginia."

Comment by yarb, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:08:18 +0000

Marvellous! I might suggest Cook's Resolution. And three fictional ships - the sloop John B., and from Conrad the doomed steamer Patna (Lord Jim) and of course "the Nellie, a cruising yawl.."

Comment by skipvia, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:46:04 +0000

"Monitor" but no "Merrimac?"

I love this list!

Comment by uselessness, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:21:20 +0000

Okay, where the heck is the S.S. Minnow?

Comment by reesetee, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:38:30 +0000

What a great list idea! So much history here. :-D

Comment by chained_bear, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:00:17 +0000

Ah, I kept thinking of "Hornet" and yet I couldn't place it, so I didn't list it. Thanks for saving me the terrible trouble of clicking on the Wiki link. :)

Comment by palooka, 10 months ago

Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:30:37 +0000

Great list CB - you have a nice cross section of famous & infamous ships, many with wonderful names (the Flying Cloud e.g.). The Hornet was a great WWII carrier & is now a museum ship in Alameda, CA.