Mia, there are millions of examples, since all species names have basonyms. Homo sapiens is its own basonym, since the name of the species hasn't changed. But I've found it hard to come up with examples where people would be familiar with both the basonym and the current name when the classification has changed. I'll let you know if I think of others.
Hi folks, I'm in the Philippines (the hotbed of mollusk diversity!) for a conference, and have finally had time to check in on Wordie. Here's an example for basonym.
The basonym of Homo erectus is Pithecanthropus erectus; it is the name originally given to the species. Pithecanthropus was synonymized with Homo, so the name of the species changed.
Experimenting with other tags on a more out of the way page I tried to get < code > or < pre > to turn the page into unformatted html, but alas, in vain.
Hahaha plethora, digital sorcery prevails! I'm also flattered to be the inspiration for a Sailor Moon attack, though I'm trying to figure out where anime panty shots fit in with html and basonyms (see, I used it!).
Couldn't basonym also mean "name given to a basilisk", or are all basilisks called Basil?
See, for example, the award-winning* children's book "Basil the basilisk grows an herb-garden", brought to you by the publishers of "Ethel the aardvark goes quantity surveying", and "Terry the termite eats crumpets with marmite".
* unlike its less successful sibling "Basil the basilisk loves casu marzu and ludefisk".
For those who don't want to scroll down (and down, and down...), a basonym is "the original, validly published name of a taxon" (says Answers.com). While a taxon is "a taxonomic category or group, such as a phylum, order, family, genus, or species" (again, Answers.com).
But you should really go pester Mollusque, our resident expert on this subject.
OK, can we fix everything now? Because we are slowly creeping towards ridiculous. Someone had better start posting some proper usages of basonym, fast.
Ok, I get that. But Mia, those instructions related to how we format our own comments. What Shevek did was to influence how other people's comments are displayed for everybody.
I only managed to view the rest of my own comment as red, so if you saw everything red it may be down to different browsers' handling unclosed tags differently.
It's not some arcane, closely guarded knowledge, Pterodactyl :) It's easy, like this: (i)yourtexthere(/i) for italic, (b)yourtexthere(/b) for bold, and (small)yourtexthere(/small) for small (you can also substitute 'small' with 'big'). Only, you should replace ( and ) with < and > signs, respectively.
Edited: You, VanishedOne, almost gave me a heart attack. I thought that I did this! You so did turn everything red. Close the tag, pretty please?
I think the reason our googlipresence has dropped is that we don't have the actual word basonym mentioned enough per comment to make up for all the other stuff. So everyone just needs to add basonym into their comments.
Shevek! Teach me your html tricks! Please? *puppy dog eyes*
And, sionnach, I'm not sure I get the meaning, either.
It works wonderfully, John. If I want to, say, make others feel small and *insignificant*, then it's the right step in that direction. It's funny, though :)
Don't you go around poking fun at my brand spanking new pair of pants! My categorization might be sucky, but I'm quite proud of my pantaloons. I need them for when I'm pants at something.
If we just go on commenting, we will easily be. As far as I know, the reason why we are often on top is the number of links that every page generates (i.e. there's a link to the basonym page on all "recent activity" pages of people who commented here, on the lists that have it, on the "past comments" pages, on every other page where the word is in brackets...)
But what if the Wordie in question doesn't know the definition? Read several definitions, see if they agree, look for citations in Google Books, then come up with a definition that encompasses what you've learned. That's what lexicographers do. They define words they haven't previously seen, based on the available evidence. It doesn't mean that your definition will be complete or entirely correct, but it will be a good starting point for the next person who wonders about the word. And since Wordie ranks high in websearches for many unusual words, your definition is likely to be encountered.
The trouble with definitions from Wikipedia, Wiktionary etc is that they're often to some extent wrong, and when they get corrected in the wiki, the old faulty copy will stay uncorrected here.
I don't mind copied definitions from professional dictionaries so much, but I still think they're basically redundant, and a citation is much more useful and interesting to me.
That's why I'd rather Wordies write their own definitions – but what if the Wordie in question doesn't know the definition, but is trying to hunt it down, as I do? :) I try not to write definitions to words which already have one right next to them (in grey letters), but I find that words can be memorized better if some effort have been put into researching them. For me, Wordie is a kind of learning tool, instead of a social networking site.
And plain old pedantry. Also, I've been caught out often enough relying on single sources. That's why I'd rather Wordies write their own definitions (as noted under rhyparographer) than copy them.
Then I bow before your expertise! It probably is a matter of professional pride for you to correct any blunders or inaccuracies you come across regarding the subject you're so well acquainted with.
How come you are so knowledgeable in this? :) I'm not arguing; today is the first time I've ever clapped my eyes on this word, and I just copied down the definition, so you may be right.
No, Wiktionary's definition is incorrect. A basonym is the original name given to a nominal species. The name might still be in use, or the species might have been moved to another genus. The term is not obsolete, but is used mostly in botany and bacteriology, seldom in zoology.
C_B, done and done. Bilby, how about merienda?
Mia, there are millions of examples, since all species names have basonyms. Homo sapiens is its own basonym, since the name of the species hasn't changed. But I've found it hard to come up with examples where people would be familiar with both the basonym and the current name when the classification has changed. I'll let you know if I think of others.
*wishes mollusque would have added hotbed of mollusk diversity to Wordie, or at least added it as a definition to the Philippines page*
Thanks, Mollusque! The term "basonym" has now officially become a little less vague – for me, at least! Have you found any more examples?
(Wow, Philippines... *is envious*)
Cool, mollusque!!
Uhh... could you close your tag when you have a chance? Your italics are showing. ;)
Ooh! Bring me words from the Philippines, moll!
Hi folks, I'm in the Philippines (the hotbed of mollusk diversity!) for a conference, and have finally had time to check in on Wordie. Here's an example for basonym.
The basonym of Homo erectus is Pithecanthropus erectus; it is the name originally given to the species. Pithecanthropus was synonymized with Homo, so the name of the species changed.
Experimenting with other tags on a more out of the way page I tried to get < code > or < pre > to turn the page into unformatted html, but alas, in vain.
So none of you try that, ya hear?
!!!
PS - Sionnach, what about bslsk05?
Hahaha plethora, digital sorcery prevails! I'm also flattered to be the inspiration for a Sailor Moon attack, though I'm trying to figure out where anime panty shots fit in with html and basonyms (see, I used it!).
Mia, would you like to buy a vowel?
Couldn't basonym also mean "name given to a basilisk", or are all basilisks called Basil?
See, for example, the award-winning* children's book "Basil the basilisk grows an herb-garden", brought to you by the publishers of "Ethel the aardvark goes quantity surveying", and "Terry the termite eats crumpets with marmite".
* unlike its less successful sibling "Basil the basilisk loves casu marzu and ludefisk".
Ok, we're still not on the first Google page, but basonym minifying htmlotage is third.
Yes, scrolling down and down and down can be irritating! ;-)
For those who don't want to scroll down (and down, and down...), a basonym is "the original, validly published name of a taxon" (says Answers.com). While a taxon is "a taxonomic category or group, such as a phylum, order, family, genus, or species" (again, Answers.com).
But you should really go pester Mollusque, our resident expert on this subject.
Hasten Jasonym
Bring the basonym!
I hear Mia, and I obey.
Hey, we're looking at you, Shevek and Bilby! Srsly.
Basonym: usage; "Hey, close that tag behind yourself, were you born in a basonym?!"
OK, can we fix everything now? Because we are slowly creeping towards ridiculous. Someone had better start posting some proper usages of basonym, fast.
Ah. I might be clued in now. I think.
He didn't do anything extraordinary, he just didn't close the tag behind himself.
Ok, I get that. But Mia, those instructions related to how we format our own comments. What Shevek did was to influence how other people's comments are displayed for everybody.
basonym
Then you've fixed my browser, because now everything's back to rights! :)
ETA – I suggest putting it in square brackets, Bilby.
And it's not ridiculous, Sionnach! Yet.
I only managed to view the rest of my own comment as red, so if you saw everything red it may be down to different browsers' handling unclosed tags differently.
basonym
It's not some arcane, closely guarded knowledge, Pterodactyl :) It's easy, like this: (i)yourtexthere(/i) for italic, (b)yourtexthere(/b) for bold, and (small)yourtexthere(/small) for small (you can also substitute 'small' with 'big'). Only, you should replace ( and ) with < and > signs, respectively.
Edited: You, VanishedOne, almost gave me a heart attack. I thought that I did this! You so did turn everything red. Close the tag, pretty please?
Just look at the page source.
Wordie doesn't automatically add closing tags.
Edit: hmm, it seems I can't turn the entire page red though.
Edit2: I've removed the <small> tags from my own comment because they were reducing the lowest comments to 4x smallness, and squinting isn't nice.
I, too, would like to learn the HTML resizing trick, and I, too, will give Shevek puppy dog eyes until he/she gives in and teaches it to us.
Please?
*earnest, pleading stare*
Did somebody say basonym?
I think the reason our googlipresence has dropped is that we don't have the actual word basonym mentioned enough per comment to make up for all the other stuff. So everyone just needs to add basonym into their comments.
Shevek! Teach me your html tricks! Please? *puppy dog eyes*
And, sionnach, I'm not sure I get the meaning, either.
It works wonderfully, John. If I want to, say, make others feel small and *insignificant*, then it's the right step in that direction. It's funny, though :)
ETA – basonym!
love the minifying htmlotage.
Despite the extensive commentary, I'm still a bit unclear on what this word means. An example, or a usage example, would be helpful.
signed
slo in San Francisco
*ducks paddle swipe*
You really ought to add that word. I can't find it or any spelling variants on Google, or in my paper dictionary. Nice one.
*is currently in a flagillitious mood*
*cowers*
*sneaks*
*pantses Mia!*
Don't you go around poking fun at my brand spanking new pair of pants! My categorization might be sucky, but I'm quite proud of my pantaloons. I need them for when I'm pants at something.
And, as you can see, you didn't shrink my paddle.
Yes indeed, I'm quite the naughty one ;-P. Perhaps the paddle is over by your categorization pants? (I hope I didn't shrink the paddle too...)
What the...? You did it, Shevek! And you made me think it was my fault. Aren't you naughty? Where's my spanking paddle?
*comment*
Our googlipresence has dropped considerably. We're back on the tenth page, folks. Oh, how will I live? Why Google has to torment me so? :/
Edited!!
Wait - I already commented here.
Count me in.
Do you think people like me would leave a comment here just for the sake of doing so?
If we just go on commenting, we will easily be. As far as I know, the reason why we are often on top is the number of links that every page generates (i.e. there's a link to the basonym page on all "recent activity" pages of people who commented here, on the lists that have it, on the "past comments" pages, on every other page where the word is in brackets...)
It looks like we've become a right authoritative source of information. A real fountain of effervescent collective wisdom, graciously sharing from our inexhaustible spring of profound knowledge.
I'm aiming for the first place! :)
Wordie is currently the second page result for basonym. :-)
But what if the Wordie in question doesn't know the definition? Read several definitions, see if they agree, look for citations in Google Books, then come up with a definition that encompasses what you've learned. That's what lexicographers do. They define words they haven't previously seen, based on the available evidence. It doesn't mean that your definition will be complete or entirely correct, but it will be a good starting point for the next person who wonders about the word. And since Wordie ranks high in websearches for many unusual words, your definition is likely to be encountered.
Well, I've been trying not to quote anything from Wikipedia and Wiktionary, at least.
The trouble with definitions from Wikipedia, Wiktionary etc is that they're often to some extent wrong, and when they get corrected in the wiki, the old faulty copy will stay uncorrected here.
I don't mind copied definitions from professional dictionaries so much, but I still think they're basically redundant, and a citation is much more useful and interesting to me.
That's why I'd rather Wordies write their own definitions – but what if the Wordie in question doesn't know the definition, but is trying to hunt it down, as I do? :) I try not to write definitions to words which already have one right next to them (in grey letters), but I find that words can be memorized better if some effort have been put into researching them. For me, Wordie is a kind of learning tool, instead of a social networking site.
And plain old pedantry. Also, I've been caught out often enough relying on single sources. That's why I'd rather Wordies write their own definitions (as noted under rhyparographer) than copy them.
Then I bow before your expertise! It probably is a matter of professional pride for you to correct any blunders or inaccuracies you come across regarding the subject you're so well acquainted with.
Because I'm a taxonomist. A large part of my professional work is to determine the correct names for species and the identifications of specimens.
How come you are so knowledgeable in this? :) I'm not arguing; today is the first time I've ever clapped my eyes on this word, and I just copied down the definition, so you may be right.
No, Wiktionary's definition is incorrect. A basonym is the original name given to a nominal species. The name might still be in use, or the species might have been moved to another genus. The term is not obsolete, but is used mostly in botany and bacteriology, seldom in zoology.
basonym – an obsolete name for a biological species or genus which has been replaced by a new name