I agree. Lord knows I saw enough confirmation of the stereotype in college, but that doesn't mean I wish to spread it further, out of respect for the exceptions to the rule. :-)
I was fortunate to go to college in a time and place where there was zero pressure to join a sorority. The "Greek system" was at a low ebb, and it never even occurred to me to try to join. I am in total sympathy with your attitude about the Greek system. I do not admire it either.
I was only commenting on that point at which objections pass beyond *the system* and *some* individuals to *all individuals* and to unfair stereotypes about all members' sexual behavior, etc.
Greek life was one of the great mysteries to me in college. I had a lot of friends who got involved in fraternities and sororities and went absolutely ga-ga over their new brotherhoods/sisterhoods.
It never seemed worth it to me: they pay for the opportunity to be friends with other people who have also paid, which is pretty superficial to begin with. Then they proceed to only hang out with those people, abandoning their old pre-greek friends (a.k.a. me) in favor of some quasi-secret-society. They have the same stupid parties anybody else could have had, and have to endure the pains of induction and hazing. No thanks.
A particular friend of mine was a real nice guy until he joined a fraternity. Then suddenly it was all he could talk about. He withdrew from our circle of friends and only associated with the "brothers." I could tell he felt remorseful when he offered me a bid to join; but I turned it down. Later he re-offered the bid and also a full scholarship so I could join for free; I turned it down again. You couldn't pay me enough to do that crap!
I agree. Lord knows I saw enough confirmation of the stereotype in college, but that doesn't mean I wish to spread it further, out of respect for the exceptions to the rule. :-)
I was fortunate to go to college in a time and place where there was zero pressure to join a sorority. The "Greek system" was at a low ebb, and it never even occurred to me to try to join. I am in total sympathy with your attitude about the Greek system. I do not admire it either.
I was only commenting on that point at which objections pass beyond *the system* and *some* individuals to *all individuals* and to unfair stereotypes about all members' sexual behavior, etc.
Greek life was one of the great mysteries to me in college. I had a lot of friends who got involved in fraternities and sororities and went absolutely ga-ga over their new brotherhoods/sisterhoods.
It never seemed worth it to me: they pay for the opportunity to be friends with other people who have also paid, which is pretty superficial to begin with. Then they proceed to only hang out with those people, abandoning their old pre-greek friends (a.k.a. me) in favor of some quasi-secret-society. They have the same stupid parties anybody else could have had, and have to endure the pains of induction and hazing. No thanks.
A particular friend of mine was a real nice guy until he joined a fraternity. Then suddenly it was all he could talk about. He withdrew from our circle of friends and only associated with the "brothers." I could tell he felt remorseful when he offered me a bid to join; but I turned it down. Later he re-offered the bid and also a full scholarship so I could join for free; I turned it down again. You couldn't pay me enough to do that crap!
See Tribblewing's recent "name-calling humans" list.
There are several more vulgar terms I have for sorority girls and sorority houses, but they're too impolite for even me to post.
Sorority girls?