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cucumber

(n): a melon vine of the genus Cucumis; cultivated from earliest times for its cylindrical green fruit
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11 days ago reesetee said:

Forgive me. All better now.

11 days ago chained_bear said:

RT, you know the rules. Kindly bracket that.

11 days ago reesetee said:

Yes! Shuttlecucumbers.

11 days ago rolig said:

So now I've got this picture in my head of men tossing cucumbers in the air and hitting them to each other with tennis rackets.

11 days ago logos said:

And don't forget that great English novel, Peregrine Pickle, by Tobias Smollett (1751).

11 days ago qroqqa said:

Oh, and I wasn't reading Boswell, I was eating a cucumber.

11 days ago qroqqa said:

I suppose we should quote the full verse from The Beggar's Opera. Mrs Peachum is 'in a very great passion' about Polly's sudden marriage:

Our Polly is a sad slut! nor heeds what we have taught her,
I wonder any man alive will ever rear a daughter,
For she must have both hoods and gowns, and hoops to swell her pride,
With scarfs and stays, and gloves and lace, and she'll have men beside;
And when she's drest with care and cost, all-tempting, fine and gay,
As men should serve a cucumber, she flings herself away.

So yes, 'serve' = "treat, deal with", and it fits what Dr Johnson said.

11 days ago rolig said:

An interesting citation, qroqqa. If I understand it correctly, in the line "as men should serve a cucumber", "serve" means "fling away" not "place on the table for someone to eat".

Are you enjoying reading Boswell?

11 days ago qroqqa said:

On the beach here there is a singular variety of curious stones. I picked up one very like a small cucumber. By the by, Dr. Johnson told me, that Gay's line in the "Beggar's Opera," "As men should serve a cucumber," &c. has no waggish meaning, with reference to men flinging away cucumbers as too cooling, which some have thought; for it has been a common saying of physicians in England, that a cucumber should be well sliced, and dressed with pepper and vinegar, and then thrown out, as good for nothing.
—Boswell, The Journal of a Tour to the Hebrides with Samuel Johnson, LL.D., 5 October 1773, on the island of Coll

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